Friends Don’t Let Friends Vote Trump… Or Do They?

View this post on my first blog, Just Sayin’.
Published Friday, January 20, 2017.


Title Image of Trump: Gage Skidmore

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  1. In my opening I mentioned a Facebook post by my nephew-in-law, Steve Creech. He wrote, “Now we are seeing friends and family being torn apart because they refuse to be civil to each other any longer.”

    His post caught my attention immediately. The timing was uncanny coming just as I was preparing this special report. It reinforces for me how serious this situation is around Donald Trump and what he represents to people — and what it drives them to do. It says to me, along with the videos I posted at the beginning, that the fighting and divisiveness is widespread and very much on people’s minds.

    With Steve’s consent, I included his Facebook post as an Addendum. Commenting is now possible here at this new blog — Just Sayin’ 2.0 — so I’m printing his post again here as well. I invite those of you who wish to add your own thoughts and comments. All ideas and opinions are welcome as long as we stay civil. – Bob


    “Since the end of the election we’ve been subjected to nonstop moaning and groaning about how Trump did not truly win the election because Clinton received more than 3 million of the popular votes than he did. We’ve also been subjected to a massive amount of shaming if we chose not to vote for Clinton (regardless if we voted for Trump or not). We’ve heard the cries of trying to get the Electoral College to change their votes and choose Clinton. Now we are seeing friends and family being torn apart because they refuse to be civil to each other any longer. I find it highly intriguing that those who are crying foul loudest now are the same ones who passionately defended President Obama when he first ran for and won the Presidency and dealt with “Birther” scandal and claims of socialist healthcare. Granted, the accusations against the President were baseless, but it still created a “us vs. them” mentality that we are seeing again now.

    “Clinton didn’t lose the election because of Trump. She lost the election because she failed to recognize that there was a subset of voters that felt they were being ignored by Washington and didn’t close the deal. She failed to excited the Democratic voter base enough to go to the polls and vote. It’s that simple. The fault was hers and her campaign team. It was the same thing that happened to Gore in 2000. He couldn’t close the deal either because voters lacked enough confidence in him to actually show up and vote.

    “Trump has rightfully won the presidency according to the laws of our nation. He won the Electoral College and will be sworn in as our new President of the United States on Friday. You may love the guy or you may hate him but nothing will change this fact.

    “Personally, I can’t stand the guy and the things he does and says. However, I was raised to respect the office of the Presidency and the person that it represents until he does something unlawful or reprehensible enough for me to no longer offer that respect (Bill Clinton, I’m talking about you). This philosophy is how I treat everyone in life regardless of who you are — race, creed, gender, religion, it doesn’t matter. When I first meet you, you automatically have my respect until you do something that forces a change in that status.

    “So now comes the part that is likely to piss some of you off. I know that Trump is a terrible man. But I am going to give him the measure of respect the President of the United States is due. Why? Because I was raised that way and because President Obama himself asked it of us on more than one occasion since the election. President Obama is a man who I hold in deep respect and regard. If he is asking this of us, then I feel we should honor that wish.

    “As his presidency moves along there are a couple of important things to remember; the President does NOT make the laws. The function of his office is to execute them. Laws are made through the legislature (Congress). There is nothing you can say that will affect what Trump says or does. If you truly want to enact change in our country, then get involved and contact your legislatures. Hold them accountable and keep their feet to the fire. That is how you do it, not shouting in your friend’s or family member’s face.”

  2. A friend, Wendy Gaylord, didn’t see my post right away but had the following response once she did. She wrote before this new blog was launched so there was no real opportunity for discussion at the time. Just Sayin’ 2.0 now supports comments, so I’m printing her thoughts here. I invite those who wish to also jump in. – Bob


    “Better late than never on reading this. I love it. I wish it could be published everywhere. As a lifelong liberal much of what both of you said resonates with me because I consider myself to be a moderate, i.e., liberal on social issues but somewhat economically conservative. On that last bit, I mean that I don’t trust Democrats or Republicans to properly spend my tax dollars so I would prefer to pay as little taxes as possible until they earn more of my trust. 😉

    “First and foremost, though, is my heartfelt sadness and outrage for what happened to Gabriel’s daughter. No ifs, ands or buts.

    “As an LGBT activist alongside Bob I feel what he feels about these issues and I appreciate Gabriel’s support. Minorities get nowhere without our allies.

    “I have long thought that it takes a lot of chutzpah to run for POTUS, let alone BE POTUS and I see that in most candidates. I honestly don’t know how anyone can stand to do that impossible job so I make room for some arrogance just as I do for fighter pilots and surgeons.

    “When Obama first ran I really wasn’t that thrilled with him and I have to say that my vote for him was reluctant, not that I would have voted for McCain. I just wasn’t thrilled with such inexperience and youth. I take the view that experience and time matter and I think the lack of it is showing up in our current Congress. I voted for him again in 2012 but partly because there was no way I was going to put Paul Ryan in such proximity to the Oval Office.

    “In the end, though, I do think that most of our problems are completely solvable but for greed, lobbying, rent-seeking and the whole underbelly of capitalism. There is more than enough money in the world to solve pretty much everything except for the fact that, as Gabriel pointed out, there will always be good and bad in the world but I still believe that the good outweighs the bad, otherwise none of us would leave the house.

    “Both of you have done a fantastic job presenting a civil and thoughtful discussion and I’m grateful.”

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